thanks, yes i do have access to 24 real cores via an acquaintance/ friend who runs design analysis and validation and will allow me to use 24 real cores for initial work and check the results and bechmark my pc for the applications if needed. the thing that is making me nervous is that i have not been able to find any benchmarks for ryzen 3960x or ryzen 3 series in general. reviews for 2nd generation of ryzen have not been quite encouraging but based on specs things have changed with ryzen 3rd generation. also the considering the price vs specs comparison with dual xeon, i think ryzen 3960x is fair bet. pls share your thoughts.