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CFD Fluent Analysis using UDF Coding

    • S1d996
      Subscriber

      Hie everyone,


      I'm simulating 3D rotating body with sliding mesh and 6DOF.


      while simulation is going on, it is showing a warning like....


      Warning: incompatible interaction between moving mesh and dynamic mesh model detected!


      Can anyone help me to resolve it?


      Thanks in advance


      Sid

    • Rob
      Ansys Employee

      Images and some idea of what you're doing will help. 

    • S1d996
      Subscriber

      Thanks for response rwoolhou


      I have attached the images below 



      • First image is my input 6dof body (Propeller) which should move in +Y direction and circular discs are used as interfaces (sliding Mesh).


      1. Hooking 6dof to Blade (which is defined as wall in BC) with 6dof-on, passive-off

      2. Hooking 6dof to fluid Zone enclosing the Blade (which has all surfaces defined as interface). The only wall inside the zone is Blade.


          here 6dof-  on, passive-on.


      3. When the relative motion is turned on along with point-1, the below mentioned warning is displayed in console area with the updated mesh motion .


            Warning: incompatible interaction between moving mesh and dynamic mesh model detected!


         Warning: dynamic mesh zone 19 (rigid body) with different CG uses 6DOF...
         6DOF rigid body::libudf:: reference CG (6.21188e-01  6.21799e-02 -2.98251e-04)
         6DOF rigid body::libudf:: different CG (6.21188e-01  6.19351e-02 -2.88150e-04)


        Warning: dynamic mesh zone 17 (Rotating zone) with different CG uses 6DOF...
         6DOF Rotating zone::libudf:: reference CG (6.21188e-01  6.15001e-02 -2.72000-04)
         6DOF Rotating zone::libudf:: different CG (6.21188e-01  6.00420e-02 -2.682179e-04)


      4. Have a doubt on which type of interface should be used while creating the interface zone between the discs so that the disc interface should        move in accordance with the balde CG. 



      •   The Secong Image is the Output of the simulation in which the Disc interface is not associated with the Blade Orientation.


    • DrAmine
      Ansys Employee
      Blades and the fluid domain around them have to use the same rigid body udf. The domain does not enclose both in the picture
    • S1d996
      Subscriber

      Thanks for reply 


      Im using same rigid body udf for fluid and blades and i didn't get the point what you have mentioned about " The domain does not enclose both in the picture"


       

    • S1d996
      Subscriber

      Hie abenhadj


      While above mentioned simulation is running, i got new warning as mention in the image


      can u help me with this?



       

    • DrAmine
      Ansys Employee
      Fluent detected contact and you did not define an UDF for that
    • S1d996
      Subscriber

      But my simulation 6DOF body has no contact with any solidbody as mentioned in above picture


    • Rob
      Ansys Employee

      I think your problem is that the sliding interface is conflicting with the 6DOF motion. Try with a moving reference frame and see if that works. 


       

    • S1d996
      Subscriber

      Thanks for the suggestions and i request you to give me a solution regarding my first issue 


      Warning: incompatible interaction between moving mesh and dynamic mesh model detected!


      with regards 


      Sid

    • S1d996
      Subscriber

      I wonder Why the Ansys Support Is to replying to any of the questions posted here.

    • S1d996
      Subscriber

      Very Disappointing


       

    • Rob
      Ansys Employee

      You had the same problem with mrf and 6DOF? 


       

    • S1d996
      Subscriber

      i did'nt do the MRF model and the error was not seen with the 6DOF


       

    • Rob
      Ansys Employee

      mrf and moving mesh?

    • DrAmine
      Ansys Employee

      Again the help does state very clear and straight (User's Guide 11.1): Sliding mesh and dynamic mesh are incompatible if they are combined within the same cell zone or adjacent cell zones. If you want to combine these two models within the same case file, they must be separated by a non-moving cell zone.


       

    • S1d996
      Subscriber

      Thanks for the reply


      As mentioned above, i removed the deformation of the outer fluid and the simulation ran smoothly till 0.1 sec 


      But, later the discs are moving apart as mentioned in above problem.


      So, can u mention me where am i going wrong 


      Thanks in Advance


      SID


       

    • Rob
      Ansys Employee

      Look carefully at what is (and isn't) moving, and how they're related. 

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