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Continuity convergence problem

    • toraman
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      I have a ribbed duct 80*80*200 mm that is heated from sublayer (2000 W/m2 constant heat flux). Reynolds is between 10000 – 30000. I applied an inlet volume 1000 mm to obtain hydrodynamically fully developed flow additionally, also an outlet region 200 mm.


       


      In meshing, I applied first layer thickness for inflation ( y+ = 1 and for different Reynolds number ) but continuity fixed on 10^-3 no reduce. For other residuals no problem. If I use y+ > 11, 30, etc. , the total inflation layer thickness is over my shortest rib so the rib keeps in inflation layer. 


      Skewness 0,21 and Orthogonal Quality 0,78


      I’ve also tried many times in k-w SST, k-e RNG, etc. also but no change.


       


      Does anybody suggest?


       


      Thanks.


       


       



       


       


       


       

    • Raef.Kobeissi
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      Try to run it for longer, have you used 2nd order Upwind? Also try to have a longer domain to avoid having flow reversal or use outflow as an outlet bc.
    • toraman
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      I used the second upwind. I applied an inlet region approximately 10*Hydrolic Diameter and although no see the convergence of continuity able to observe the velocity profile well.   

    • Raef.Kobeissi
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      I would run it a little bit more and I would try to decrease the momentum under-relaxation factor to 0.5. Have you used the SIMPLE algorithm? Also try using Outflow rather than pressure outlet.
    • toraman
      Subscriber

      Thanks for your reply. I also tried URF. Residuals reduced for a short time but then increased again. However, I think that the problem is estimating the first layer thickness. I saw your calculator and tried but the results are totally different from mines that ? used below the which is for duct flow. 


       


        

    • Raef.Kobeissi
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      I don’t think that’s the problem. You already mentioned that you y+ is 1so your thickness is alright. Try to initialise from inlet make sure your turbulence intensity is correct and insert correct hydraulic diameter at inlet. Use outflow..
    • toraman
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      For 20 000 Reynolds  I=0,16 *Re^(-1/8)= %4  that is suitable for medium-turbulence ? What can I compare with the Turbulence Intensity more? 


      and the meaning of to insert correct hydraulic diameter at the inlet is v=(Re*dyn.visc.)/(Dh*density)?

    • toraman
      Subscriber

      Sorry I checked intensity on fluent boundary conditions it is  %5 as default  I think that's ok.

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