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Convergence issue in PCM simulation Fluent.

    • rads
      Subscriber

      I have been trying to perform a PCM melting simulation in FLUENT, but am facing convergence issue. There is normal melting at start of simulation, but then there is a very sudden drop in temperature after which the system becomes completely unstable and goes back up to a very high temperature in the next timestep.


      Mesh Quality:


      Minimum Orthogonal Quality = 3.52907e-01 cell 323206 on zone 9 (ID: 406547 on partition: 0) at location (-1.57583e-02 2.41255e-03 1.67722e-02)

      (To improve Orthogonal quality , use "Inverse Orthogonal Quality" in Fluent Meshing,

      where Inverse Orthogonal Quality = 1 - Orthogonal Quality)


      Maximum Aspect Ratio = 7.91960e+00 cell 193565 on zone 9 (ID: 276906 on partition: 0) at location (-1.39062e-02 2.66648e-03 1.59572e-02)


      Domain Extents:

      x-coordinate: min (m) = -2.000000e-02, max (m) = 2.000000e-02

      y-coordinate: min (m) = -6.123234e-19, max (m) = 3.664102e-02

      z-coordinate: min (m) = 0.000000e+00, max (m) = 5.000000e-01

      Volume statistics:

      minimum volume (m3): 1.368996e-11

      maximum volume (m3): 5.474989e-10

      total volume (m3): 3.864102e-04

      Face area statistics:

      minimum face area (m2): 3.245439e-08

      maximum face area (m2): 1.006125e-06

      Checking mesh...........................

      Done.



    • Rob
      Ansys Employee
      What changes in the simulation result to trigger the sudden temperature problem? n
    • rads
      Subscriber
      Not sure. I had not made any changes in the model. this is during a continuous run. n
    • Karthik R
      Administrator
      Please check your residuals at this point when you see this change in trend. If these residuals look good and very similar to the previous one, this point is telling you something about the physics you are attempting to model. nI'd strongly recommend that you inspect your simulation before and after this spike and you might get a clue as to what might be happening. nKarthikn
    • rads
      Subscriber
      Hey, So I checked my residuals, and this is how they look. nThere is a sudden spike in them too. ot sure what to make of this now.. n
    • DrAmine
      Ansys Employee
      ADD Information about pcm material and melting model.n
    • rads
      Subscriber

      ADD Information about pcm material and melting model.https://forum.ansys.com/discussion/comment/106177#Comment_106177

      This is what I used as my PCM material propertiesn I am sorry but I am not sure what exactly you mean by melting model. I am new to this, could you please elaborate? nThanksnn
    • Karthik R
      Administrator
      Your model doesn't seem to be converging properly. Also, provide some screenshots of your convergence strategy - Time-step, solution schemes etc.nKarthikn
    • rads
      Subscriber

      Your model doesn't seem to be converging properly. Also, provide some screenshots of your convergence strategy - Time-step, solution schemes etc.Karthikhttps://forum.ansys.com/discussion/comment/106180#Comment_106180

      n
    • DrAmine
      Ansys Employee
      Definitely high time step. Add material panel from Fluent, I want to check something.n
    • rads
      Subscriber

      Definitely high time step. Add material panel from Fluent, I want to check something.https://forum.ansys.com/discussion/comment/106191#Comment_106191

      Here you go.nnWhat would be the recommended Time step?.Thanks n
    • Karthik R
      Administrator
      Please estimate the time-step to make sure that the CFL number is ~1. It depends on the velocity and smallest grid scales.nCFL = del_t * V / del_x ~ 1nI agree with 5 s is too large a time-step.nKarthikn
    • rads
      Subscriber
      Changed the settings to adaptive time control with CFL -based. It worked. nThanks everyone for your help!
      • GUNA AG
        Subscriber

        Please  tell me how you choose adaptive time control

    • Karthik R
      Administrator
      Excellent!n
    • DrAmine
      Ansys Employee
      Great!n
    • Raiyaan S
      Subscriber
      I am trying to solve similar kind of problem... can you kindly send screenshot of boundary conditions.
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