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Discrepancy between DataPlot and Contour Plot

    • LCP
      Subscriber

      Hi everyone,

      (Picture 1: velocity magnitude contour plot, with streamlines and point of interest. Picture 2: y-velocity data plot in point of interest. Picture 3: comparison of y-velocity from ANSYS FLUENT and LS-DYNA ICFD solver. Picture 4: y-velocity contour plot, comparison between colour in plot on point of interest and legend).


      I am currently running a "benchmark" iCFD problem (flow around a cylinder) using LS-DYNA, for Re = 0.5. I am interested in the y-velocity at a point 8 diameters from the cylinder (see pictures below).

      When I extract the dataplot from this point, you can see that the velocity is 6e-4 m/s. When I compare this result to the contourplot, however, you can see that the color where the point is situated belongs more to the 2.5e-4 m/s y-velocity.

      When comparing the LS-DYNA answer to the FLUENT answer, it is clear that indeed the y-velocity should be much lower than 6e-4 m/s. So why does the dataplot give me a different result, and how can I get the right result?

      Kind regards,

    • tslavik
      Ansys Employee
      This looks indeed like a strange issue. Which version of LSPP has been used for this ? Perhaps try the newest version V4.8 or V4.9 (Dev). If a DataPoint/Nodout object is created and used on the neighboring nodes instead of a Pointout, what happens ?
      One thing to keep in mind is that Re=0.5 is pretty low so the fractional step hypothesis starts to break down and some error is expected when compared to the empirical equation.
      For low Reynolds a monolithic approach may be more accurate than the fractional step (see *ICFD_CONTROL_MONOLITHIC).
    • LCP
      Subscriber

      Thank you for your response. I am using the student version of LS-DYNA, so this is ANSYS 2020R2 LS-DYNA Student 12.0.0.
      I am honestly not entirely sure what the difference is between Nodout and Pointout, but the way I defined the point in the DataPlot is seen in the picture I added below. I chose the coordinates of a point. As you can see, this point is not situated on a node (so maybe something goes wrong during interpolation of course, and that would be the only issue. But I would have to check if this discrepancy is also happening for e.g. Re=1000.). Then I identified the node nearest to this point. This is node 4244. But when I look into my mesh file, this node does not exist. Somewhere along the path of going from an ordinary mesh to a multisolver mesh, I loose all information about my mesh. You can also see that I am not "allowed" to choose a node in the DataPlot object properties menu.
      Also below I have added a picture of the y-velocities at four different points behind the cylinder. Is this what you meant with "If a DataPoint/Nodout object is created and used on the neighboring nodes instead of a Pointout, what happens?" ?
      And thank you for the tip about the fractional step solver inaccuracy! I will also run it in a monolithic manner. But at around what Reynolds number should I not use monolithic anymore? And If I want to compare the LS-DYNA results to the ANSYS FLUENT results, should I then use the simple, coupled, or FSM method for the pressure-velocity coupling method in FLUENT? (see last picture for the comparison).
      Kind regards
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