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Hardening Soil model in geomechanical tool

    • Wasti
      Subscriber

      Hi everybody,


      currently I´m trying to model a soil nailed wall at serviceability state and  I want to evaluate the role of nail bending stiffness. Thus I created a volume model, also simulating the excavation phases during the construction. Does anybody know how I can implement the "Hardening soil model" in Ansys?


      Best


      Wasti

    • Sandeep Medikonda
      Ansys Employee

      Hi Wasti,


        When you say implement, do you want to implement a custom material model by writing your own subroutine? Before doing that, I would recommend you to check out some of the geo-mechanical material models that are already available and might fit your needs:



      • Cam-clay

      • Mohr-Coulomb

      • Jointed Rock

      • Drucker-Prager Concrete

      • Menetrey-Willam


      Please see this section of the help for some guidance on Geomechanical Material Models.


      Regards,


      Sandeep

    • John Doyle
      Ansys Employee

      We have a number of nonlinear material modeling options for geomechanic applications of soils, rock and aggregate materials. Refer to MAPDL online help Section 4.9 (Geomechanics) for more details.  There is also a simple example illustrating active/passive earth-pressure analysis in Section 48.6 of our Technology Demonstration Guide which might be a good place to start.   I am not aware of a worked out simulation for the specific "soil nailed wall" scenario.  We do support the inclusion of both smeared and discrete reinforcement, which might be useful here.


      Regards,


      John

    • Wasti
      Subscriber

      That´s the problem - I checked all geomechanical materials. The problem is the non linear material behaviour. soil has almost no linear range and also reacts different on un- and reloading. I thought about the use of hardening models with only a very small range of linear elasticity. But the next problem is that additionally the soil stiffness depends on the S3 stress state. This means withi increasing depth you have different stress strain relations, means a different curve...

    • John Doyle
      Ansys Employee

      Yes that is correct.  All the soil models referenced above have yield surface formulas that are dependent on hydrostatic pressure with very little strength in tension. So the greater the compression (S3) the stronger the material becomes (just like soils).  Isn't the purpose of these "nails" to introducing compression and thereby stabilize the material?

    • Wasti
      Subscriber

      No, you mean prestressed anchors. But the working of the nails is discussed controversely. The most reasonable explanation is that the nails increase the soil´s shear strength. A problem of all the ansys soil models is that they describe the yield surface. But for the modelling of reinforced slopes and excavation stages more advanced material models like Hardening soil model or the hardenings soil model with small strains or a hypoplastical model should be used, as they refer to the nonlinear stiffness. Other codes like Plaxis or Abaqus implemented the models and I foundone thesis of a german guy who developed a user hypoplastical user material. But maybe somebody knows another possibiltiy to implement the hardening soil model as described in (https://www.plaxis.com/?plaxis_download=2D-3-Material-Models.pdf) into ansys?


       

    • user8179
      Subscriber

      Dear Wasti,


      Did you find a solution for it. working on hardening soil model in ANSYS.


      If possible please work with me. how did you overcome the limitations and how did you model the hardening soil in Ansys.


      if you have Ansys hardening soil model please share with me.


       


      thank you.

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