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How to avoid bending of the workpiece at the edges of the die, why gap b/w WP and die after bended?

    • idrees
      Subscriber
      Hello everyone!

      I have two questions regarding to this simulation. The bending plate thickness, width, length = 2, 2, 150. Vee shape bending die with 90 degree angle. Transient structural modal. Aluminum alloy 7075-0
      How to avoid bending at the two edges of the vee die as shown in the attached file 1. Even I tried to change the radius of the fillet and remove the fillet but still no improvement. When I increase the workpiece thickness and width then this does not happen and the bending goes smooth as natural.
      After the simulation is completed and the plate is fully bended there is still I can see an obious gap between the punch and plate and plate and die. Even this does not happen when I increase the thickness and width of the sheet. As shown in the second attached screenshot.
    • Chris Quan
      Ansys Employee
      Are you using Transient Structural system?
      If yes, are the contact between the plate & die frictional? Do you observe that the plate is stick to the die at the die edge?
      If yes, you can insert a Contact Tool under Solution to plot Contact Status & Frictional Stress of the contact. If the contact shows "stick" status or has very large frictional stress in the die edge, you need to insert a MAPDL command to limit the maximum frictional stress. This will allow the plate sliding on the die.
    • peteroznewman
      Subscriber
      The die has moved down in 0.7 milliseconds. Inertial forces at the ends of the plate have caused the bending. If you don't want the ends to bend, move the die down slowly, like 1000 times slower, such as 0.7 seconds.
    • idrees
      Subscriber
      Hello sir!
      To move die means apply displacement to the die?
      But I applied force to the punch and fixed support to the die. By keeping die at a fixed place I also wanna observe the springback in the workpiece.
    • idrees
      Subscriber
      The main problem is why there so much gap between punch, workpiece and die after fully bended, even I did correct geometric calculations. Such as die opening, workpiece length, Punch width etc

    • peteroznewman
      Subscriber
      The punch has moved down in 0.7 milliseconds. Inertial forces at the ends of the plate have caused the bending. If you don't want the ends to bend, move the punch down slowly, like 1000 times slower, such as 0.7 seconds.
      If you want to apply a force, not a displacement to the punch, add a very large mass to the punch to slow it down.
    • idrees
      Subscriber
      Sir, If I increase the punch length, width and thickness, does it help to increase the mass of the punch?
      Thank you!
    • peteroznewman
      Subscriber
      The simplest way to increase mass is to go into Engineering Data and edit the Density of the punch material. Try adding three zeros. While that may slow down the velocity of the punch, it will create a large amount of kinetic energy that will squash the plate against the die, so it may not be the best idea.
      A better way to slow down the velocity is to add a spring/damper from the punch to ground along the punch direction. Set the spring rate to 0 but put in a large number for the damping constant. A damper creates an opposing force proportional to the velocity. Keep increasing the damping constant by a factor of 1000 until you see the punch slow down. The benefit of the damper is that as the punch begins to push the plate against the die and the velocity is slowed by contact, the force in the damper will drop to zero.
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