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Maxwell and steady state thermal

    • congmin
      Subscriber
      The heat generated by maxwell is opposite to the temperature distribution curve





      strange

      Going out specific heat capacity convection conditions and other issues, making them contrary, is it possible that I have made a mistake in setting the conditions in the steady state thermal module operation
      If so, can you tell me, what are the possible conditions?
      Thanks
    • Karthik R
      Administrator

      Hello,


      What do you mean by the direction being the opposite? Do you mean that the thermal energy should leave your computational domain (as opposed to entering it)? 


      I'm not able to make out much from the images you have posted. Could you please post clearer images here so we can take a look and better understand the issue?


      Thank you.


      Karthik

    • congmin
      Subscriber

      Hi,Kremella


       


       


      First of all thank you for answering me






      The imported heat density from Maxwell to steady state thermal is shown in picture 1.
       
      It should be that the calorific value on both sides of the board is small, and there are two maximum values in the middle part, but the calorific value in the middle part is less than the two maximum worth points,in picture 2

      The distribution should be the almost same as the imported thermal density distribution curve, as shown in picture 3

      but the actual result of the steady-state thermal simulation is that the temperature in the middle of the board has not decreased. As
       
       
      shown in Picture 4
       
       

      what wrong operation of the steady-state thermal module will cause this this results of it?
       
      Thanks
       




       
    • congmin
      Subscriber

      First of all thank you for answering me


      The imported heat density from Maxwell to steady state thermal is shown in picture 1



      calorific value on both sides of the board is small, and there are two maximum values in the middle part, but the calorific value in the middle part is less than the two maximum worth points,in picture 2 



      The distribution should be the almost same as the imported thermal density distribution curve, as shown in picture 3 



      the steady-state thermal simulation is that the temperature in the middle of the board has not decreased. As     shown in Picture 4




       


      what wrong operation of the steady-state thermal module will cause this this results of it?   Thanks  


       


       

    • Karthik R
      Administrator

      Hello,


      Even though there is a heat flux difference between the center and the location where you are seeing the maximum, since you are looking at a steady-state temperature profile, it seems to me that you could be getting the correct answer along the line you are plotting. This could be because the difference in the heat flux is small between the location where you are seeing the maximum value and the center of your board.


      One way you could verify - If you run a transient simulation, you might see a temperature plot similar to your hand-sketch (especially in the beginning). If you run this transient simulation longer, you should see the same temperature plot that your steady state model is currently showing.


      I hope this helps.


      Best,


      Karthik

    • congmin
      Subscriber

      Hi Kremella


       


      Thank you for your answer.I will try to  run this transient simulation .Thank you so much!!!!!


      best


      Congmin

    • Karthik R
      Administrator

      Excellent! If this answered your question, please mark the appropriate answer as 'Is Solution'. This might benefit others on the community.


      Thank you.


      Karthik

    • congmin
      Subscriber

      In the steady-state thermal module, the result is that the workpiece is heated to about 900  celsius. I then went to the transient thermal module to analyze and found that after 900 celsius, the workpiece still heats up. Where does the problem cause this?

    • Karthik R
      Administrator

      What do you mean by the heating up of the workpiece? Could you please elaborate?


      Thanks.


      Karthik

    • congmin
      Subscriber

      hey


      The setting conditions of the steady-state heat and the transient heat are the same. The transient heat is set for 1000 seconds. Check the temperature curve. The transient heat is simulated to about 600 seconds. The workpiece temperature almost reaches the temperature curve of the steady-state heat. Logically, the simulation should be in It stops at about 600 seconds, but the fact is that the temperature of the workpiece keeps rising to 1100 celsius from 600 to 100 seconds. What problem is causing this error


      Thank you


      congmin

    • Karthik R
      Administrator

      I know you are applying the heat flux from your Maxwell run. What other boundary conditions are you applying here?


      Is this not your steady-state temperature result? From this plot, it seems like you are getting steady temperatures ~ 1100 degC? Is this not the case?



      Thanks.


      Karthik

    • congmin
      Subscriber

      Sorry, this picture is 1100 degrees Celsius I used to draw the current of 70A


       


      When I do the transient thermal simulation, I use a current of 65A, so the steady-state temperature curve is about 900 degrees Celsius


       


      Transient simulation for 1000 seconds, but 600 seconds has been 900 degrees Celsius, but 600-1000 seconds, the temperature will continue to rise, reaching 1000 degrees Celsius in 1000 seconds. I don't understand, why is it that the steady-state temperature is exceeded and the simulation will continue for a long time after 600 seconds, where is the problem caused?


       


      thanks 


      congmin

    • Karthik R
      Administrator

      Can you please share some screenshots of your transient simulation in Transient Thermal?


      Thanks.


      Karthik

    • congmin
      Subscriber

      hi Karthik


      Sorry I reply too late, because the computer is simulating other projects before, and I cannot open the transient thermal project


       


      I just checked out the problem. My convection heat transfer coefficient was accidentally entered incorrectly. The heat transfer coefficient is different from that in steady-state heat, so this problem


       


      The problem has been solved, and as you said, in the transient heat, the initial curve is the same as I imagined. After 20 seconds, the temperature curve is similar to the steady state thermal curve.


       


       


      Thank you very much for your patience to answer


      congmin

    • Karthik R
      Administrator

      Perfect! Good to know!

    • congmin
      Subscriber

      hi Karthik


       


      I now want to set the thermal emissivity of 22MnB5, but I found that I can only fill in a constant value, but the thermal emissivity changes with temperature, so I want to fill in an emissivity table. Is this possible? If so, can you take a screenshot and teach me how to do it?



       


      thanks !!!!


      congmin

    • Karthik R
      Administrator

      Hello,


      Please create a new post for any new question that you might have and we will be happy to help. This will greatly help others on the community.


      Thanks.


      Karthik

    • congmin
      Subscriber

      hello,karthik


       


      https://forum.ansys.com/forums/topic/emissivity-setting-in-constant-form-in-steady-state-thermal-module/


      this is new question link


       


      thanks 


      congmin

    • congmin
      Subscriber

       


       


      hello,karthik


       


       


       


      I have another question about maxwell import loss value to steady state module


       


      maxwell cannot be transferred to steady-state heat. The heat density of the steady-state thermal module is not the same as the loss value in maxwell. Ask what, what should I do


       


       can you answer me?


      https://forum.ansys.com/forums/topic/maxwel-loss-imported-value-to-steady-state-thermal/


       


       


      thanks 


       


      congmin


       

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