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January 20, 2022 at 8:49 am
Esteban_Guajardo
SubscriberI saw some of your post... they are really helpful. Thanks for that.
I have some questions, I hope you can help me:
- I have been working on some tanks models with the "Modal" module. I have been collecting good results regarding the modes of the convective mass (within the order of 0.1 to 0.3 Hz), but I have not been lucky in terms of the modal information associated with the impulsive mass. The number of modes that I ask the program for is a bit exaggerated (more than 5000 modes and still don't get the impulsive modes), so I would like to know if there is any possibility to limit this number of modes, i.e. that the program only calculates the modes in one direction only, since a cylindrical tank fortunately has symmetry. I know that I get to specify the number of modes, but the problem is that I get the modes (or frequencies) in pairs, and the difference between them are really tiny (up to the fourth decimal). The impulsive mass of tanks normaly (depending on the dimensions of the tank) will be activated at the higher frencuencies, and because of these differences in them, that I've talked you about, the number of modes that I have to ask is really "a bit much" and still can not get the information for the impulsive frecuencies. I dont know if one can manipulate the tolerances of the decimals in order to reach "engineering results"...maybe truncate decimals to second digit, I think is a reasonable way to go. You can see in the image how many 0,75 Hz the program calculates, which is completely useless under my humble point of view.
January 25, 2022 at 2:04 pmAshish Khemka
Ansys Employee
Please see if the following link helps you:
Mode Participation Factor and Effective Mass ÔÇö Lesson 4 - ANSYS Innovation Courses
Regards Ashish Khemka
January 25, 2022 at 3:49 pmEsteban_Guajardo
Subscriber
Thanks for your answer.
Unfortunately, for Modal Acoustics the are just the participation ratio and a ratio shown, which these do not have any relation with the modal masses or any other calculation. The possibility that I'm completely wrong is also there... XD
Could I send you one of my models so we can talk about it?
Thanks in advance
March 18, 2022 at 11:35 amKrishnenduP
Subscriber
Hope you are well.
Have you got a solution to determine the modal mass values for each mode frequency using Modal acoustics simulation? Please let me know. When I study the mode shapes with modal analysis, the output solution file itself gives the corresponding modal mass values for each mode. However, same doesn't happen while using modal acoustics. I tried to use the relation with kinetic energy and modal mass, but the results are not matching. Please help me solve this if you have got a solution to your problem.
Thank you Best Krishna
March 27, 2022 at 5:49 pmFRCL
SubscriberHello, I have a question regarding Modal and Modal Acustics, what is the difference between the two studies?
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