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May 29, 2022 at 6:25 pm
javat33489
SubscriberHi all.
I'm doing aerodynamic calculations. Speed 0.2 M, angle of attack 4 degrees.
I made test calculations on three types of turbulence: K omega SST, SA and K epsilon standart wall.
I got the following Y+ scores:
SA
K-omega SST
K-eps
According to the rules for model SA, Y+ must either be less than or equal to 1 or greater than 30. Is SA best suited?
Additional questions.
There is no information about the boundary layer in the fluent tutorial. I did without it. Is my decision correct?
All three solutions are roughly similar, but they have different Y +, only SA is suitable, am I right?
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May 30, 2022 at 4:46 am
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May 30, 2022 at 10:53 am
aitor.amatriain
Subscriber¨According to the rules for model SA, Y+ must either be less than or equal to 1 or greater than 30¨
Where have you read that?
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May 30, 2022 at 12:51 pm
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May 30, 2022 at 2:42 pm
aitor.amatriain
SubscriberOkay, I get that. SA is very old and after checking it now I understand the reason of that message.
SA will work well depending on how many cells have y+<30 and where are they located. The min and max values are a good starting point, but you should check the "y+ distribution".
There is no information about the boundary layer in the fluent tutorial. I did without it. Is my decision correct?
I do not know what is the purpose of the tutorial. In SA, f you have y+<1 everywhere you are resolving the flow well, while if you have y+>30 then you are relying on the wall functions.
All three solutions are roughly similar, but they have different Y +, only SA is suitable, am I right?
k-omega SST includes the optimum wall treatment, therefore (for similar y+) it should be the most accurate model.
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May 30, 2022 at 6:54 pm
javat33489
SubscriberThank you very much for the answer.
But I do not understand. What should I do next?
I have very high Y+ scores. For SST model from 13 to 34871. I will check the Y+ distribution.
For SA, if the majority of cells >30, then do I need to build a boundary layer? If <30, then I leave the solution how did it turn out?
For SST, according to the rules, it should be 1I'm a little confused.
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May 31, 2022 at 7:11 am
aitor.amatriain
SubscriberIf you want maximum accuracy you should follow the guidelines. If not, for k-omega SST if you have 13In any case, what are you simulating? How many cells does your mesh have? What is the Reynolds number?
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May 31, 2022 at 3:38 pm
javat33489
SubscriberI solve the problem of aircraft aerodynamics.
I didn't use the boundary layer.
I got the following indicators y +
cells 0-300
cells 1000-3000
all others up to 33k ...
Please tell me the expression formula to display% for cells, for example, how many percent of Y + cells will have up to 300?
I have very high Y+ scores and it scares me
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