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    • javat33489
      Subscriber
      Hi all.
      I'm doing aerodynamic calculations. Speed 0.2 M, angle of attack 4 degrees.
      I made test calculations on three types of turbulence: K omega SST, SA and K epsilon standart wall.
      I got the following Y+ scores:
      SA
      K-omega SST
      K-eps

      According to the rules for model SA, Y+ must either be less than or equal to 1 or greater than 30. Is SA best suited?

      Additional questions.
      There is no information about the boundary layer in the fluent tutorial. I did without it. Is my decision correct?
      All three solutions are roughly similar, but they have different Y +, only SA is suitable, am I right?
    • Keyur Kanade
      Ansys Employee
    • aitor.amatriain
      Subscriber
      ¨According to the rules for model SA, Y+ must either be less than or equal to 1 or greater than 30¨
      Where have you read that?
    • javat33489
      Subscriber
      Ansys tutorial


    • aitor.amatriain
      Subscriber
      Okay, I get that. SA is very old and after checking it now I understand the reason of that message.
      SA will work well depending on how many cells have y+<30 and where are they located. The min and max values are a good starting point, but you should check the "y+ distribution".
      There is no information about the boundary layer in the fluent tutorial. I did without it. Is my decision correct?
      I do not know what is the purpose of the tutorial. In SA, f you have y+<1 everywhere you are resolving the flow well, while if you have y+>30 then you are relying on the wall functions.
      All three solutions are roughly similar, but they have different Y +, only SA is suitable, am I right?
      k-omega SST includes the optimum wall treatment, therefore (for similar y+) it should be the most accurate model.
    • javat33489
      Subscriber
      Thank you very much for the answer.
      But I do not understand. What should I do next?
      I have very high Y+ scores. For SST model from 13 to 34871. I will check the Y+ distribution.
      For SA, if the majority of cells >30, then do I need to build a boundary layer? If <30, then I leave the solution how did it turn out?
      For SST, according to the rules, it should be 1 I'm a little confused.
    • aitor.amatriain
      Subscriber
      If you want maximum accuracy you should follow the guidelines. If not, for k-omega SST if you have 13 In any case, what are you simulating? How many cells does your mesh have? What is the Reynolds number?


    • javat33489
      Subscriber
      I solve the problem of aircraft aerodynamics.
      I didn't use the boundary layer.
      I got the following indicators y +
      cells 0-300

      cells 1000-3000

      all others up to 33k ...

      Please tell me the expression formula to display% for cells, for example, how many percent of Y + cells will have up to 300?
      I have very high Y+ scores and it scares me


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